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Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

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Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:12 pm

Hi everyone,  Not long joined the forum to gain knowledge and help along the way once I've found a suitable bike to pick your brains about.  

I'm from sunny ( :? ) Scotland and in the market for either a V50 Monza or mkII. Budget isn't huge but would prefer something that runs and isn't in too bad a shape.

Distance isn't a problem as I don't mind travelling to view a bike as long as it's as described and not been over exaggerated. 

 Thanks v much 
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby cyclobutch » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:56 am

Have you ridden one before, or any Guzzi come to that? I really took against mine when first I bought it. Got used to it eventually.
And they are quite small. I look like I’m riding a kids bike when I’m on mine.

I defo wouldn’t look at a non-runner. Cosmetically they can get very tired if in everyday use, but that’s easy enough to rectify.

Apart from that, if you get a good’un they are the best bikes that money can buy. They seem to come up on a well known auction site fairly routinely. If one comes up down my way and you want me to check it out for you just drop me a line.

Edit - Should have said; I'm mid-Essex.
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:10 pm

Thanks for the advice. I haven't ridden one before but the size thing isn't  an issue. I've had smaller bikes in the past, all Honda now I think of it - 400/4; CBR400 NC29 and more recently a 1980 CB250RS. It won't be an everyday bike so if I can get a cosmetically sound example all the better. 

I may take you up on your offer to go and view if anything crops up down your way so thanks in advance.  :)
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby cyclobutch » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:24 pm

Ooh – I had a 250RS for a while. I think mine was an ’81. Got me down for Le Mans bikes two up one year when the Veefer alternator packed up the day we were going. Slow run down but it made a great paddock bike whilst we were there. Augured in on the side of a Micra some time later when I’d got it up to around 65k miles. That one hurt.

But yeah, not a problem should you find a possible suspect down my way.
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby guykate » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:58 pm

The Monza is significantly higher geared than a 1 or 2 v50.....
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:19 pm

guykate wrote:The Monza is significantly higher geared than a 1 or 2 v50.....

......and that's OK by me
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby guykate » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:36 am

Yep....me too...
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Don-Spada » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:08 pm

Any good for you?
Moto Guzzi V50 Monza MOT Ready Seized Clutch 287 Miles on Clock MONMOUTH NP25
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moto-Guzzi-V ... 1438.l2649

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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:30 pm

Keeping an eye on this one. It may get to a silly price and I tried contacting the seller to ask him if he had anything to back up the low mileage claim but heard nothing back  :?
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Don-Spada » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:41 pm

Have a look on the DVLA MOT check
https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:17 pm

Yes I've looked there already. Recorded at 280 miles in 2012 and 269 in 2010. My question was if he has the paper MOTs from before then  
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:17 pm

Still on the lookout for a V50 if anyone is thinking of selling in 2018?
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby rapheal glynn » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:05 am

Buy the best you can afford
people sell bikes as projects, but the time spent repairing cosmetic damage, accident damage, and damage through morons forcing, abusing, and just generally being over confident in their own abilities can result in the thing costing far more than it will ever be worth
and you not riding it
anything listed as a barn find is bound to be a heap, motorcycles need to be used and kept maintained, otherwise they deteriorate very quickly
also avoid anything customised, if its that good why are they selling it ?
you might be better saving some dosh or getting a bank loan and buying one from a specialist dealer or from a club member who has owned and ridden it for many years

Several of my friends have rushed into buying motorcycles, and they are regretting the purchase, and funnily enough I am not interested in fixing them, despite a well equipped workshop and plenty of experience of fault finding

you could even consider importing a bike if the price is right

Contact Nigel at NBS he may well know of a machine and will know its history and what to pay
Ebay can be a pain, its easy to get carried away with pretty pictures
one friend of mine was on the cusp of buying a classic BMW for a considerable amount of money, plenty of promises made about the bikes history and service work
His wife insisted on me testing it before the money was handed over, the seller could not produce receipts for all the service work ? said a mate of his did it?
both tyres at least 12 years old and going off, and small cracks
evidence of accessories having recently been removed, in fact I spotted them in the garage under a cover
and it rode like a pig, first thing check tyre pressures, nowhere near correct
checked oil low and dirty
he said the gearbox oil and engine oil were the same ??
took it up the road, head bearings seized
front brake spongy and fluid black
rear brake barely working
clutch slipped
front forks bottomed out over bumps
at 4 grand it should be fairly good
the bloke was not happy as he had all his mates round and was bigging himself up as a rider
he did get a bit stroppy with me and accused me of lying, so I told him fire it up and follow me for ten miles
if you stay on top and behind me its a sale
its amazing how forgetful some people are when selling bikes
we got him a bike in the end, a much older higher mileage machine, not as shiny as it had been ridden, but everything worked smoothly and it had a full history and included all the accessories and manuals and spares
price was a little bit more, but in 2 years nothing has gone wrong and it continues to perform well
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Mike H » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:17 pm

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Sorry to say have to agree. These bikes are now "classic status", aka "collectors' items", meaning decent ones are stupid money. Cheap ones will be wrecks / money pits, and increasingly as time goes by, some parts like e.g. V50 main bearings are unobtainium. :(


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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Don-Spada » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:40 pm

From Facebook land if you are still looking....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:08 am

Don-Spada wrote:From Facebook land if you are still looking....

I am still looking but that seems to have disappeared  :(
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Don-Spada » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:27 pm

It was posted in a closed group on facebook so you won't see it if you are not a member of that group. Moto Guzzi MGC UK. If you ask to join, someone will add you.
The contact details for the seller are in the picture above. Distance might be an issue as it's near London.
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Golfgeezer » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:04 pm

Don-Spada wrote:It was posted in a closed group on facebook so you won't see it if you are not a member of that group. Moto Guzzi MGC UK. If you ask to join, someone will add you.
The contact details for the seller are in the picture above. Distance might be an issue as it's near London.

So contacted the seller and said 'I'm enquiring about your bike'. Which one? came the reply. Slight alarm bells but could just be selling a few of his personal collection. 'The Moto Guzzi' I said which was met with a response of £2700. I pointed out it's advertised on Facebook for £2200  :roll:  'Oh yeah, my mistake' he said. There's a Monza badge on the side panel but the fairing and handlebars don't look right for a Monza  :? 

Anyway I'll keep looking as I don't feel this is the one for me. 
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby Tony.B » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:25 pm

And beware of anyone who is selling a 'Moter Guzzi' !!!!!!
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby rapheal glynn » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 pm

Golfgeezer wrote:
Don-Spada wrote:It was posted in a closed group on facebook so you won't see it if you are not a member of that group. Moto Guzzi MGC UK. If you ask to join, someone will add you.
The contact details for the seller are in the picture above. Distance might be an issue as it's near London.

So contacted the seller and said 'I'm enquiring about your bike'. Which one? came the reply. Slight alarm bells but could just be selling a few of his personal collection. 'The Moto Guzzi' I said which was met with a response of £2700. I pointed out it's advertised on Facebook for £2200  :roll:  'Oh yeah, my mistake' he said. There's a Monza badge on the side panel but the fairing and handlebars don't look right for a Monza  :? 

Anyway I'll keep looking as I don't feel this is the one for me. 

Wheeler dealer type geezer then
moving it on, probably the seized clutch is just part of the problem, given that they are so easy to work on, why would you not get the clutch repaired ?
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby cyclobutch » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:55 pm

rapheal glynn wrote:
Golfgeezer wrote:
Don-Spada wrote:It was posted in a closed group on facebook so you won't see it if you are not a member of that group. Moto Guzzi MGC UK. If you ask to join, someone will add you.
The contact details for the seller are in the picture above. Distance might be an issue as it's near London.

So contacted the seller and said 'I'm enquiring about your bike'. Which one? came the reply. Slight alarm bells but could just be selling a few of his personal collection. 'The Moto Guzzi' I said which was met with a response of £2700. I pointed out it's advertised on Facebook for £2200  :roll:  'Oh yeah, my mistake' he said. There's a Monza badge on the side panel but the fairing and handlebars don't look right for a Monza  :? 

Anyway I'll keep looking as I don't feel this is the one for me. 

Wheeler dealer type geezer then
moving it on, probably the seized clutch is just part of the problem, given that they are so easy to work on, why would you not get the clutch repaired ?


Because it's a PITA to do or a 5hitload of money to have someone else sort it.
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Re: Newbie to the brand. Looking for a Monza or V50 mkII

Postby SCMGuzzi » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:37 pm

IMHO it is not PITA.
Saying that the easiest vehicle I’ve changed a clutch on is a Lancia Flavia. Circlip at the rear of the gearbox and pull the main shaft back. The clutch “drops “ out from underneath.
 
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